[netperf-talk] PAD_TIME in 2.4.5
Rick Jones
rick.jones2 at hp.com
Wed Apr 4 13:56:18 PDT 2012
First a procedural note. When changing the topic of a thread so fully,
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That way when someone is scanning thread subjects, your's won't be
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On 04/04/2012 01:14 PM, Srikanth Sundaresan wrote:
> We faced some issues using netperf 2.4.5 on low bandwidth networks.
>
> The recv() call was getting interrupted by a SIGALRM; we figured it's
> caused by low values of PAD_TIME. Our guess is that with high
> buffering in modems the delays (multiple seconds) is causing a
> timeout. This only occurs on upstream tests and not on downstream
> tests (presumably because the data rates are higher, and so buffering
> is lower).
Have you heard about the efforts at http://www.bufferbloat.net/ ?
Unless those modems are connected to something that has seconds
"natural" latency it sounds like they are truly bufferbloated (queue
length bloated).
> We *kind of* fixed this by setting higher values of PAD_TIME - it
> seems to work better with ~30 seconds (our tests are 15 seconds
> long). We have two questions regarding this fix:
>
> 1) Will higher PAD_TIMEs affect test accuracy?
One of the more active users of netperf under Windows believes it might
(thanks to the way it happens to work there, but I think for Linux it
would be "OK." Netperf on *nix has had a PAD_TIME "since the beginning"
> 2) Do we need to patch the client too? Currently we test both sides
> by running -t TCP_STREAM and -t TCP_MAERTS respectively; does the
> client time out too?
I think it would be best if both netperf and netserver had the same
concept of the value of PAD_TIME. That is just a gut-level thing, not
backed-up by code inspection.
Also, if there is indeed that much buffering in the modem(s) you might
want to consider explicit, smaller socket buffer sizes than system
defaults. I wouldn't be surprised if Linux autotuning didn't play all
that well here either, which would be another reason to go with
explicitly set socket buffer sizes.
rick jones
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